Comments on: Reliance Communications: The Scam of the Millennium http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:56:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: FormerRCOMMCustomer http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-2679 FormerRCOMMCustomer Sun, 02 Oct 2011 21:10:53 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-2679 Shijaz: IANAL. To the best of my knowledge, the statute of limitations for collecting a debt is 3 years as per the Indian Contract Act. However, if you acknowledge the debt and agree to pay it, the limitation period gets extended. Since you cancelled in 2004, the wanker can send you as many notices as he likes, so long as you admit nothing (on phone, liable to being recorded, or on paper), they'll be thrown out right away if they ever go to court. What Reliance (more than any other provider) does instead is to continue sending you false and fraudulent bills for an year or more after you've cancelled the connection, and then try these tactics to "recover" it. Of course, even with this, they can submit claims in court only for the last 3 years. The only way to deal with it is to identify these agents personally, record all their bogus phone calls and to then submit complaints to the police (or to the local Magistrate if police fails to act). Offenses of criminal intimidation, (attempt to) cheating, and defamation are clearly made out. If the writer of the letter is actually a lawyer (its possible and even likely that he/she isn't), complain to the state bar council about the bogus notice. I suspect you never heard from him again after that "legal notice". Otherwise complain to the Bar Council and the police about impersonating a lawyer. I had a similar experience a couple days back. A phone call with the caller claiming to be a lawyer. She said that a case had been filed against me in the Patiala House Courthouse, it was due for hearing the same day and I would be fined Rs. 50,000/- if i didn't clear my "unpaid dues" for an old Reliance FWT line, disconnected more than 5 years ago. Of course, in my case I was already aware of their shenanigans from the news and made sure I got a no-dues certificate from them while paying the final bill. AND I've kept it. So I just cut her off in a couple of minutes. Shijaz:

IANAL.

To the best of my knowledge, the statute of limitations for collecting a debt is 3 years as per the Indian Contract Act. However, if you acknowledge the debt and agree to pay it, the limitation period gets extended. Since you cancelled in 2004, the wanker can send you as many notices as he likes, so long as you admit nothing (on phone, liable to being recorded, or on paper), they’ll be thrown out right away if they ever go to court.

What Reliance (more than any other provider) does instead is to continue sending you false and fraudulent bills for an year or more after you’ve cancelled the connection, and then try these tactics to “recover” it. Of course, even with this, they can submit claims in court only for the last 3 years.

The only way to deal with it is to identify these agents personally, record all their bogus phone calls and to then submit complaints to the police (or to the local Magistrate if police fails to act). Offenses of criminal intimidation, (attempt to) cheating, and defamation are clearly made out. If the writer of the letter is actually a lawyer (its possible and even likely that he/she isn’t), complain to the state bar council about the bogus notice. I suspect you never heard from him again after that “legal notice”. Otherwise complain to the Bar Council and the police about impersonating a lawyer.

I had a similar experience a couple days back. A phone call with the caller claiming to be a lawyer. She said that a case had been filed against me in the Patiala House Courthouse, it was due for hearing the same day and I would be fined Rs. 50,000/- if i didn’t clear my “unpaid dues” for an old Reliance FWT line, disconnected more than 5 years ago. Of course, in my case I was already aware of their shenanigans from the news and made sure I got a no-dues certificate from them while paying the final bill. AND I’ve kept it. So I just cut her off in a couple of minutes.

]]> By: Shijaz Abdulla http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-1293 Shijaz Abdulla Sun, 15 May 2011 01:58:05 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-1293 I changed my mind since writing this post. I have still not made any payment as I consider it not the right thing to do as I don't really owe them money. I'm going to wait and see what happens. I changed my mind since writing this post. I have still not made any payment as I consider it not the right thing to do as I don’t really owe them money. I’m going to wait and see what happens.

]]> By: renu http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-1289 renu Sat, 14 May 2011 04:03:55 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-1289 Same story for me too. After 2 years of closing the connection i get a letter from this P R Radhakrishnan....I dont get any bill for 2 yrs and this comes up. Looks like reliance guys are in dire need of money :), people who get scared by such notices would go and give money and settle it. The experience with them was so bad that i keep away from all reliance products. Same story for me too. After 2 years of closing the connection i get a letter from this P R Radhakrishnan….I dont get any bill for 2 yrs and this comes up. Looks like reliance guys are in dire need of money :) , people who get scared by such notices would go and give money and settle it. The experience with them was so bad that i keep away from all reliance products.

]]> By: romie sunail http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-500 romie sunail Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:20:25 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-500 i am a victim too. with their craping wimax net service. the connection was extremely crappy and i stopped using it. after 2 years i got the notice. :) didnt have to wait 5 years as in ur case... legal and all. threatening sounding. i am a victim too. with their craping wimax net service. the connection was extremely crappy and i stopped using it. after 2 years i got the notice. :) didnt have to wait 5 years as in ur case… legal and all. threatening sounding.

]]> By: Shijaz Abdulla http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-501 Shijaz Abdulla Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:23:02 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-501 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">#Reliance Communications - the scam of the millennium - http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html</span></span> #Reliance Communications – the scam of the millennium – http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html

]]> By: Shijaz http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-499 Shijaz Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:20:34 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-499 Hi Babu,<br /><br />Let me know how I can help. The copy of the letter is posted on this blog.<br /><br />Shijaz Hi Babu,

Let me know how I can help. The copy of the letter is posted on this blog.

Shijaz

]]> By: babu http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-498 babu Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:15:42 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-498 Hi i do face the same problem Please forward me the copy . I collect this from all... then move collectively to stop this fraudulent service... Hi i do face the same problem Please forward me the copy . I collect this from all… then move collectively to stop this fraudulent service…

]]> By: Shijaz http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-497 Shijaz Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:38:45 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-497 I was told by one of my friends that the Thavakkara office of Reliance in Kannur doesn't exist anymore. I was told that they moved to a new location a few years ago after the office was stormed and damaged by angry subscribers :)<br /><br />I'm not surprised. I was told by one of my friends that the Thavakkara office of Reliance in Kannur doesn't exist anymore. I was told that they moved to a new location a few years ago after the office was stormed and damaged by angry subscribers :)

I'm not surprised.

]]> By: Riyas Basheer (via Facebook) http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-496 Riyas Basheer (via Facebook) Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:34:18 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-496 It's really unbelivable man....u hv this bad exp from one of indian service provider?<br />Try to fight with this suckers if possible .... It's really unbelivable man….u hv this bad exp from one of indian service provider?
Try to fight with this suckers if possible ….

]]> By: Sajeev Kumar (via Facebook) http://www.microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-scam-of.html#comment-495 Sajeev Kumar (via Facebook) Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:19:30 +0000 http://microsoftnow.com/2009/09/reliance-communications-the-scam-of-the-millennium.html#comment-495 its not only for reliance, i had the same experience from BPL and now from vodafone too, finally i moved to BSNL its not only for reliance, i had the same experience from BPL and now from vodafone too, finally i moved to BSNL

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